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Wednesday, April 3, 2013

When do feminists need to back off?

So a friend made an interesting post this morning about Saudi women now being able to legally ride bicycles.

Um, yeah...just the thought that riding a bike is a social advancement for some women in the world...wow.

But....what if some women didn't want to ride bikes?  Like...seriously...felt it went against their religion, their propriety, whatever?  Obviously that doesn't mean it should be illegal for any willing woman to ride a bike, but there's a point I'm trying to make.  Sometimes, from our "advanced" position, women like me can't fathom a woman who willingly, knowingly, makes the decision to submit, to honor her religion, her family, her husband, by being subservient.

Some feminists simply cannot wrap their minds around this one.

I think we've all seen this cartoon by now, so let's examine it:




I've had this general concept floating around in my head for quite some time, years in fact.  I grew up in a home that was more gender equal than they would dare admit.  My father picked us up from school, cooked most of our meals, did a lot of cleaning, and was never the "macho" type.  My mother had a great career, worked late evenings, had her fair share of meetings while Dad stayed home with us, and wasn't "feminine" in this new Botoxed and bleached version of the word. She's classically beautiful with modest style, minimal makeup, and simple clothes. Yet she was, and is, a minister's wife and has no problem slipping into that subservient role, even as a woman with a graduate degree, retired from a very successful career, with hobbies and interests all her own.  What?

Perhaps, and I'm coming to the realization more and more, perhaps this is a different plane of enlightenment.  There are women who know about gender roles, who know the history of oppression behind them, and yet, from an informed place, make the conscious decision to follow religious (or just personal/societal) customs, subjugate themselves to their husband's (or religion's) control.  Mind. Blowing.

So let's explore this phenomenon.

As a feminist pretty much surrounded (by choice) by feminists in the 21st century, I'm constantly looking out for the oppressed woman, doing my best to help them find their voice.  What if....their voice has been found but they don't want to be heard? Make sense?  What if they are happy, fulfilled, and satisfied being the subservient in the relationship, or by being a homemaker?

I recently had an embarrassing and shameful experience. After a woman who has repeatedly trolled my posts, articles, etc. with comments about gays made the comment, "Gay is a choice. That. Is. All.", I blasted her (that I don't regret), I copied her comment and reposted it (still, no regrets), but I made the observation about a "housewife" having the qualifications to make such a statement on the psychological state of all gays. Here I call myself a feminist, and I shame a woman for choosing to be a housewife.

That's embarrassing.  And wrong, wrong, wrong.  I do NOT regret making her comment public, I don't agree with her comment, but I was wrong to place this societal name-tag of "housewife" as a shameful thing.  For all I know, she does have a PhD; her status as a housewife doesn't preclude that possibility.  So I engaged in the ultimate oppressive language, particularly from one woman to another, and that was wrong.

So when we, educated, liberal, outspoken Western females, look at cultures in which a woman's place in the religious and home life has been set by hundreds, sometimes thousands of years of tradition, can we back off and respect the women who knowingly make the decision to fulfill their roles in their culture?  To admit that we can't conceptualize ourselves in such a lifestyle but still respect their decisions?

Recently the city of Paris attempted to outlaw burqas [purportedly for security reasons], and some Muslim women staunchly refused and protested the law because they asserted it was their chosen religious right to wear their burqas. Western women couldn't wrap our brains around the fact that these women weren't oppressed, forced kicking and screaming into their burqas, but put them on every day reverently and solemnly as an assertion of their religious right.  Sure, sure, there are women who don't want to wear them and shouldn't be forced to, but we have to understand that, just as many American women who follow conservative Christian teaching succumb to the authority of their husbands and male religious leaders, there are women in every culture and religion who knowingly submit.

So at what point are we in a post-feminist society? Will there ever be such a thing? So long as Middle Eastern cultures do force women into submission, so long as the Congo is using rape as a weapon of war, so long as fundamentalist Christian men are beating their wives behind closed doors and churches remain silent to the abuse epidemic, so long as rape victims are being blamed on college campuses, then we still need to push for full female equality.  I don't think we are anywhere near a post-feminist society, not even close.  But I think we do need to take a step back and observe that some women make a conscious, informed decision to follow certain cultural and/or religious traditions which we perceive as too submissive, and that that's ok.

Throw in your thoughts, observations, etc.  Feedback always, always welcome and loved.
~m

7 comments:

  1. I get seen as a just a housewife. I graduated with a double BA in 3yrs. Have drafting certification and have a professional degree. I worked for 8yrs at nonprofits until 2010. I haven't worked a day since. Now I drive kids, manage a soccer team and a home, 5 different schedules and a husband. But to those on the outside I am "just a housewife" a kept woman. I actually lost friends when I quit working one in particular who felt like it was her job to look down on SAHMs. To point out every thing she achieved that didn't come from a man. I went back to suffered through a child in the hospital for 9mnths. I was a single mother to a 20mnths old and twin 3mnth olds. I still went back to school...twice! Worked the jobs, took the hits and put in years of no sleep. So I feel bad for the people who see just a housewife. What a loss for them to not know the real me.

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  2. Um....and you're awesome. But that's just a side affect, I guess :)

    I know, I was super disappointed in myself when I went back and read my comment. And I was a housewife for a while, too, and I KNOW how hard it is and how much of a commitment it is (far more of a commitment than you make to any job). I'm glad you commented...I was hoping you would. I see a lot of my feminist friends making comments about housewives, as if they need "saving", when these women have made this conscious decision.....who are we to disrespect that?

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  3. I'm an equal partner even though I'm a housewife. No decisions are made without my input. So I don't feel likea submissive woman. Anyone who has every tried to change my mind or get me to do anything I don't want to knows that haha. I love how things are in our family even though it may not be the choice of many feminist. Hands on raising my girls to be strong women and make choices that truly are the best for them no matter what others say is the ultimate feminist statement.

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  4. Having a partner or husband who is just as equal in terms of respect is key. You're lucky in that aspect that you have that kind of man! He's definitely awesome from everything I hear about him.

    Oh, and your last line....YES. Raising awesome kids to be progressive, contributing members of society....best ever.

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  5. I wrote this response but ended up being a long novel so I’ll summarize it. Media caters to the idea that a woman is most fulfilled when she is at home mastering the art of house work and child rearing. Every commercial that has to do with feeding, cleaning or entertaining a family has the central character a mother who is in a state of domestic bliss because she was able to complete those tasks quickly and efficiently. And don’t even get me started on Pintrist.
    The problem with this is that there are many ladies out there who find this idea of women to be very different (and wrong) from who they are or how they feel. And because women in this society are defined by this very narrow view of what it takes to be a women, the outsiders (such as myself) have a hard time finding a place where they feel their voice is heard. We become resentful of the women who so easily fill these roll because it’s the most celebrated and yet easiest thing for a women to become.

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  6. I as a rule don't let the media tell me who I should be. I think its probably the worst place to try to get an honest full story on anything. When I did work I didn't see cleaning commercials as a threat to me. It didn't make me feel the need to become a housewife or feel bad that I wasn't. Those women cleaning could have just gotten home from work for all I know. Maybe their family shares responsibility. Maybe like me her husband leaves streaks and she likes to do it herself. I don't look beyond myself to make decisions about who I should be. I know some people probably aren't as "themselves" as I am and may be affected by those commercials if that's the meaning they are looking for they will find it. Even home life goes through cycles just like bell bottoms and beards. I don't find Pinterest evil, I use it to pin hobbies I like outside of family time and clothes and other ridiculous things I probably never will own or do but its still and nice place to look and pin and indulge in a dress or garden or cake even if just to look at. Virtual window shopping if you will. The only thing I can honestly completely disagree with is it being the easiest role to step into and the most celebrated. When a woman has been at work and decides to stay home you hear "Why?" or the snarky "Oh got that much money huh? Wish I could do that." or my favorite and most ironic "My husband would never let me stay home." So they go to work to prove they aren't "submissive" but submit to not quitting if they really wanted to?! Im hardly ever celebrated. Stay at home Moms are seen as selfish because they put all the burden on their husbands. Lazy because they don't have to work. Spoiled. Smothering mothers. Or having it made. Or they cant make in the real world of work. Undereducated. Close minded...the list of things I hear negative goes on and on. Each person has their own way of getting their business done. I don't do it to be celebrated though I do it to be there and give my kids opportunities just the same as a working mother.

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  7. I like that there are other women who are readdressing what it means to be a feminist in today's world. It took me a while to realize that any conscious choice a woman makes is a manifestation of her own power and truth whether that choice looks like my own or not. Since I have been able to step back and marvel at the amazing variety of strong women in every different role imaginable.
    I think that there are two main road blocks for women. 1) We are so dynamic that there is no one centralized feminine ideal toward which we can all work. Feminism, like women, has so many different faces. Sometimes it looks like Margaret Thatcher, sometime it looks like Mother Theresa, and sometimes it looks like a single mother of three working part time at Starbucks slinging lattes for the masses. 2) We stand in our own way all the time. Some of the most destructive actions against women are undertaken by other women. We are our own worst enemies. Can you imagine what kind of a world we could create if all of us could proudly stand next to one another without commenting on someone else's shoes, or hair, or lifestyle choice? We would be unstoppable!
    I have adopted the practice of asking myself what I am afraid of when I meet a woman who triggers my defenses. By facing this weird reaction of mine I have I have been able to overcome many of my own insecurities which has allowed me to make friends with some beautiful women. And I look forward to meeting many more.
    Thank you for pointing out that feminists come in many flavors!

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